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post Nov 6 2004, 12:08 AM
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First and formost this is what i posted on another forum where im much more involved in political debates. Therefore you may not have seen me as so much antibush...


As EVERYONE has noticed I was an (over)zealous supporter of Mr. Kerry in his persuit to defeat Bush. This article touches on that partly, the election in general, my thoughts on its unfolding, and how im pissed off at the general immaturity of people on BOTH sides.

First and formost, congradulations to the Bush administration on winning a rather tight race... he legitimately won this one.

The voters sent a clear message via the results, and I think that we can accept the message. The voters want Bush's mess cleaned up, and they think that its best he fix his own problems. Denying Bush fucked up at this point is impossible, but the American people have had a tendancy to let people fix their own problems (or be incredibly stupid, but unlike my fellow Left-Supporters i disagree in this case). Bush has claimed he will be in touch with Kerry on trying to win over SOME support from Kerry supporters, and if he legitimately takes the advice the US should be in FAIRLY good hands. The Left/Right arguments dont really matter in this scenario as there were far to many different issues surrounding the election.

And now for my messages to those without a shred of poli-scientific knowledge, common courtesy, or respect.

To Bush supporters - Having your man win by 2% is great. Celebrate. you should. BUT you should never bash your opponents supporters. Its bad form. Leading up to the election they gave you a good fight, but you dont kick someone when their down, you leave them to recover. Dont go saying things like "Take that you fucking liberals" "I told you Kerry sucks.. See!" or anything along those lines. Have respect, as Bush has given Kerry's supporters.

To Kerry supporters - Im as dissappointed in you as the Bush supporters. Firstly, running around yelling "Fucking Bush!" is a dumb idea... he DID win by popular vote this year, if only just. Dont blame Bush on all your problems postelection, dont call yoru fellow voters "stupid" or "blinded by the media" as you NEVER KNOW. Let the dog die... four years isnt enough to destroy the world and Bush is not as much an idiot as we claim him to be. He may not be as smart as Kerry but he DOES have the capability to start cleaning his mess.

Finally, from a Canadian perspective with heavy bias, I pity those who were told to vote without being given a broad view if this was the case. I also in a perverse sence hope Bush's presidency continues to raise the Canadian dollar.


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post Dec 3 2004, 04:25 PM
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congradulations to the Bush administration on winning a rather tight race... he legitimately won this one


Hey, he legitimately won the last one also. He was in full compliance with the US constitution. That made his election in 2000 legitimate. He won the majority vote in Florida giving him the required number of electoral votes. the US supreme court only ordered Florida to comply with its own state constitution which the Gore campaign did not want to do- Gore wanted a partial recount rather than the full state recount required by the Florida constitution.

If the 53% that Bush won in 2004 isn't a resounding defeat for the Democrats and a solid win for Bush then what was the 43% that Cinton won in 1992 and the 47% that Clinton won in 1996.

And no it is not impossible to deny that Bush screwed up. It is the Europeans that screwed up. They screwed their best ally and now it is time to return the favor. Bush has no responsibility to be in touch with the Kerry suporters. A majority of the American people have rejected them and what they stand for. For Bush to move toward this group is to reject the votes of 53% of the American voters. It is time for the majority of the American voters to get what they voted for and not to be ashamed of it.

If the Democrats want to influence policy or direct policy they should win elections. This is what democracy is all about. You win - you rule. It is totally undemocratic to go against the wishes of the majority electorate. What kind of crap is this to suddenly adopt the policies of the defeated.
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