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[Pikaporeon]

First and formost this is what i posted on another forum where im much more involved in political debates. Therefore you may not have seen me as so much antibush...


As EVERYONE has noticed I was an (over)zealous supporter of Mr. Kerry in his persuit to defeat Bush. This article touches on that partly, the election in general, my thoughts on its unfolding, and how im pissed off at the general immaturity of people on BOTH sides.

First and formost, congradulations to the Bush administration on winning a rather tight race... he legitimately won this one.

The voters sent a clear message via the results, and I think that we can accept the message. The voters want Bush's mess cleaned up, and they think that its best he fix his own problems. Denying Bush fucked up at this point is impossible, but the American people have had a tendancy to let people fix their own problems (or be incredibly stupid, but unlike my fellow Left-Supporters i disagree in this case). Bush has claimed he will be in touch with Kerry on trying to win over SOME support from Kerry supporters, and if he legitimately takes the advice the US should be in FAIRLY good hands. The Left/Right arguments dont really matter in this scenario as there were far to many different issues surrounding the election.

And now for my messages to those without a shred of poli-scientific knowledge, common courtesy, or respect.

To Bush supporters - Having your man win by 2% is great. Celebrate. you should. BUT you should never bash your opponents supporters. Its bad form. Leading up to the election they gave you a good fight, but you dont kick someone when their down, you leave them to recover. Dont go saying things like "Take that you fucking liberals" "I told you Kerry sucks.. See!" or anything along those lines. Have respect, as Bush has given Kerry's supporters.

To Kerry supporters - Im as dissappointed in you as the Bush supporters. Firstly, running around yelling "Fucking Bush!" is a dumb idea... he DID win by popular vote this year, if only just. Dont blame Bush on all your problems postelection, dont call yoru fellow voters "stupid" or "blinded by the media" as you NEVER KNOW. Let the dog die... four years isnt enough to destroy the world and Bush is not as much an idiot as we claim him to be. He may not be as smart as Kerry but he DOES have the capability to start cleaning his mess.

Finally, from a Canadian perspective with heavy bias, I pity those who were told to vote without being given a broad view if this was the case. I also in a perverse sence hope Bush's presidency continues to raise the Canadian dollar.

[artzelda]

Illegal war. What court declared the Iraq law illegal? None that I am aware of. But I am willing to be educated. The UN is NOT the arbitrater of who goes to war or not. What falsified evidence? Everyone icluding the UN, Canada, Europe believed that Iraq had WMD. What the hell were the inspectors in Iraq looking for if these countries and the UN did not believe that they were there. Name a country, other than Iraq, that stated that Iraq did not have WMD!!!

Going agains the wishes of the populace. What populace are you talking about. Congress authorized going to war - even Kerry voted for it. An overwhelming majority of Americans were for it. If the populace you are talking about is the European and Canadian populace- well a president is not required or obliged to care what they think. They should have and have no influence on the actions and opinions of a US president.

Taking a months vacation after being informed of a missle attack. Please identify the exact circumstances of this accusation - or are you just repeating the liberal mantra that a white paper indicating that Al - Queda was to attack the US was sufficient warning to take actions. Al Queda had identified its intent to attack US interests under the CLinton administration and Clinton took no actions to protect US military forces, ie the attack of the USS Cole in the Arabian Gulf, etc. No one had specific intelligence to warrant actions. 911 opened the eyes of the US to the true nature of this threat. The rest of the world ignores it and hopes it will go away and stay away from them. Only the US is being attacked and confronting this threat with the aid and assistance of some of its friends. Those countries that do not help or obstruct are not friends and allies but are enemies of the US.

What sorrows of the world are you talking about?? Why is it the US has to solve them? Let Europe and Canada solve them. They talk alot but do nothing. Who has contributed the most money to fight Aids in Africa either in total dollars or a percent of GNP or government budget. Europe and Canada are nothing more than hulking elephants sucking on the largesse of the US.

What prejudice has been written into the constitution?? I am not aware of any change in the US constitution for at least 50 years and maybe longer. Please identify the specific prejudice written into the constitution by the Bush administration ???

These accusations are rant with no basis behind them. Just opinion of what constitutes an illegal war, falsified evidence, valid credible intelligence, sorrows of the world. I left out the prejudice issue because there have been NO changes to the constitution under the Bush adminstration. The constitution is identical to what existed under the Clinton adminstration.

This post has been edited by artzelda: Dec 3 2004, 07:16 PM