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artzelda
post Jun 29 2004, 12:42 PM
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I am thinking of getting a second hard drive and an concerned that it may not be compatible with either my BIOS or winXP. I have heard that some BIOS and WINXP home ed may not see hard drives larger than 137G (Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 303013). How can I check out if my BIOS is compatible. I currently have a 120G hard drive and a Gateway 1.7GHz computer (about 3 years old).
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post Jun 29 2004, 04:28 PM
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Shouldn't be a problem, win xp should see all of the HD.

If you want to be sure, try and download the newest BOIS for you pc. If you can't find it, just get an ATA controler card. That will let you put in whatever size HD you want.
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post Jun 30 2004, 05:49 AM
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yeah I am with dInferno herem BIOS should see it no problem. Know as for Win it won't see it unless it is partitioned into 137gb partitions or less. But if you get the SP1 installed it will see every bit of it if you partition the whole drive.
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post Jul 1 2004, 12:13 AM
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The hard drive must also be NTFS.
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post Jul 1 2004, 07:19 AM
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Yes, true of course FAT 32 only supports aprox 32 gb partitions, and why use FAT 32 over NTFS, I mean NTFS fragments less, more stable, more secure, etc.

I only use NTFS myself, ever since I tried to format a drive with larger than 32gb partitions back in the day I never looked back to FAT 32, I would NTFS a floppy if I could. :D :P
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post Jul 1 2004, 07:00 PM
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I'm using FAT32 on 1 drive, which works just fine and NTFS on the other. For a home user the NTFS security doesn't mean much. I tend to use FAT32 over NTFS, coz it's compatibility is broader than the NTFS.


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post Jul 2 2004, 01:01 PM
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I do not think Win XP recognizes SATA hard drives until after SP1 is installed. Nothing to be concerned about if you are not using SATA.
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post Jul 4 2004, 09:29 PM
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Well, I just found out the largest drive compatible with my BIOS is 127Gig. Guess if I want a larger one I'll have to get an external drive- which I don't want to do.
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post Jul 5 2004, 06:18 AM
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QUOTE (artzelda @ Jul 4 2004, 02:29 PM)
Well, I just found out the largest drive compatible with my BIOS is 127Gig. Guess if I want a larger one I'll have to get an external drive- which I don't want to do.

not even with an ATA controller card? My ooold machine (433 celeron) has a 160gig HD working perfectly using a controller card (which was included with the HD btw). They are not expensive.
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post Jul 5 2004, 03:29 PM
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post Jul 8 2004, 06:16 AM
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Not to stray off topic, but yes FAT can be more compatiable with older Win 9x OS's, but that does not make it better.

FAT proven to be quite reliable and is fairly immune to damage. When the system crashes, FAT can "misplace" disk space that was being allocated to a file.
Although it is simpler to manage a few larger volumes, FAT performance degrades with volume size. The distance between the directory and the data increases the disk movement, and larger allocation units waste space. FAT systems require the least memory and are the best choice on small machines.
FAT32 increases the number of bits used to address clusters and also reduces the size of each cluster. The result is that it can support larger disks (up to 2 terabytes) and better storage efficiency (less slack space).

NTFS has features to improve reliability, such as transaction logs to help recover from disk failures. For large applications, NTFS supports spanning volumes, which means files and directories can be spread out across several physical disks.

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NTFS is the recommended file system for computers running the Microsoft Windows XP and Windows Server™ 2003 operating systems. Microsoft strongly encourages system manufacturers to manufacture single NTFS volumes on all systems where a 32-bit version of Windows XP is preinstalled.

Benefits for end users. Preinstallation of NTFS offers many end-user benefits related to functionality, security, stability, availability, reliability, and performance:

• Support for large hard drives. Hard-drive vendors expect to deliver drive-size capacities in excess of 127 GB in the near future. Windows XP and Windows 2000 provide native support for NTFS volumes on such large sizes, while a FAT32 volume is supported only for sizes up to 32 GB.



Sorry just a heads up on the info, not to argue but I felt the same until I came into the light. :D

Not that everything M$ says is true, but here is a link discussing and comparing FAT, 16, 32 to NTFS.
It is very good and goes into very nice detail.

***http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/winpreinst/ntfs-preinstall.mspx

Also can you not just Flash the BIOS??

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