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[Defcon9]

Sometimes hollywood goes a little to the extreme in it's views of political issues. Mikie Moore has just got to be laughed at, this documentary is so one sided that it's laughable. I suppose that you could make a documentary from the other veiw, so whats the point. This is just what the director whants you to believe. This is just a slap in the face of the U.S. military. Just a thought!

[artzelda]

Well, guess we have issues on both sides. But the question is are lies to be tolerated and accepted as fact when it fits our ideology or is a lie a lie no matter what.

First of all, the Saudis did NOT leave the US while its airspace was shut down. This is a flagrant lie and should stop now. I believe they left 3 days after air traffic was restored in the US. Each of them were interrogated by the FBI before leaving. This was documented in the 9-11 Commission report. So lets end this fabrication.

Second, the Reuters article about defense spending versus spending on education is misleading because it does not account for spending on education by local authorities (State and towns)..Local authorities do not spend on defense only the federal government spends on defense. Even State national guards are funded by the federal government not state governments. So based on this if the figures quoted by Reuters are correct education spending is at least twice that noted in the Reuters article. Limbaugh's statement referred to total spending not just federal spending. So someone should tell Reuters reporters that when they report on the US they should know the system and get their facts straight. Limbaugh is not wrong by degree (ie maybe not twice maybe 2.2 or 1.8 times).

Third- Who cares what is said by commentators about other commentators (O'Reilly versus Moyers) or broadcasting networks (FOX versus PBS)!!!

Fourth- the media is quick to point out fallicies in and misrepresentations by 'conservative ' columnists. To be fair the same liberal media (NY Times) has pointed out the lies in Michael Goebbels Moore's film, but for some reason, liberals don't want to admit to them. So who is not facing reality.

In terms of Drudge etc - these people are known to be ideologues and therefore much of what they say is discounted by the American public. They are the radio and TV version of the National Enquirer. They have virtually no credibility other than their entertainment value. So lets not equate these people making purely political statements with a film that is purporting to present a factual recount of events and has been discredited by the mainline 'conservative' and 'liberal' news media.