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[Ratrap]

Hello, i posted it here and not "Hardware" because i want to know Experience AND facts.

I am about to get a new Computer, a really expansive one, 4000+ euro

But i don't know what kind of CPU!

AMD Athlon 64 FX-60 (2600 MHz, Bustakt 1000 MHz, Level 1 Cache 256 KB Level 2 Cache 1024 KB)

or

Pentium® Extreme Edition 955 (3466 MHz, Bustakt 1066 MHz, Level 1 Cache 16 KB Level 2 Cache 2048 KB)


i had once a AMD and got bluescreens like hell (1ghz some years ago)

Since that time i just bought Pentium.

Which CPU is better for games?

[Deepone]

I would wait for AM2 from AMD.. should be coming pretty soon. of course the initial ones will cost like h*ll but from the budget it seems you want the bleeding edge so it might be good idea to wait a moment for it (if I recall it right it should be coming on Q2 ie this month).
at this point of time waiting would be good option, but if you want to chooce from either one of those two, I would propably go with AMD. Pentium's are going really hot these days so cooling might be a problem. also check out these:

http://www.nforums.net/board/index.php?showtopic=2938
http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?mod...=118&model2=319

play around with the different comparisons on the last link - it would be notable that amd got a lot better scores in multiprocessing and games that i checked out. Altho testing programs and power for prize seem to favor Pentium, so its really your call :)
oh, and as a sidenote - havent had problems with AMD myself.. :) (from what I know there have been some problems with the VIA's chipset on the motherboards of their processor tho so that might have been the reason)

[Ratrap]

Thank you!

Yeah this time i want to pay alot, every time i bought a computer it had slow parts, like a noname board or slow ram ...

The second link was great thanks!

[Deepone]

here's a link to story about the AM2 platform:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/02/21/a_l...t_am2_platform/

quad cores.. sounds promising :P anyway, should be coming by June. and reason to wait ? well... investment on the future :)

The Socket AM2 is a generation change that is becoming increasingly necessary for the sake of supporting memory that will be mainstream in mid-2006 and into 2007. It won't change the performance landscape by much, unless AMD decides to make some fundamental changes to the architecture such as upgrading the FX to 4 MB cache. However, it will also be the basis for the upcoming 65 nm processors that are due at the end of this year. That is when things are going to heat up; the shootout between Intel's Conroe desktop processor and AMD's shrunk Athlons will be as hot as the Gigahertz battle in 2000.

This post has been edited by Deepone: May 2 2006, 07:47 AM

[Ratrap]

I've tried to build my Computer, but i noticed: AMD doesn't support DDR2 Ram and the good Asuus boards.

Someone else told me wait too, but, there are new cpus, graphic cards etc all the time.

I just don't know about DirectX 10 and the Graphic Cards :-/

[Awai]

i've always used AMD because of the price - never had any problems (which cant be said about no name ram...) so i'd strick with them over pentiums any day. :)

just an IMO

[Deepone]

I've tried to build my Computer, but i noticed: AMD doesn't support DDR2 Ram and the good Asuus boards.

Someone else told me wait too, but, there are new cpus, graphic cards etc all the time.

I just don't know about DirectX 10 and the Graphic Cards :-/

well the thing with AM2 is that its offering that DDR2 support on-die :) and given that you are going to spend a lot of money on the comp, I would strongly suggest buying one that can still be upgraded after few years: AM2 is the only socket AMD is going to put new stuff to... and its just until June ;)

[Ratrap]

Guess i will wait then.

I never want to see low fps and freezer in a new Game like Ghost Recon again!

I've 3 ghz P4 and 2 gb ram but still too slow :-/

[oleva orava]

I will take AMD, because I think it's better :P

[Pikaporeon]

Between those two, the AMD plows circles around the intel

Wait for the new ones if youve got the patience though

[Ratrap]

Another question:

My new PC has a 36GB HDD(10000 instead of 7200) S-ATA and they install Windows Pro there.

But i want to use my 2 old HDDs too(1x C\Windows, D Games and E Tools 1x X Downloads), can i just plug them in and boot from the new hdd and format C and D without losing data from E and X?

[dInferno]

As long as your old drives are not the one your pc will boot from, you can format any partition you want, without affecting the data on the others.

[Ratrap]

Thanks alot!

But how do i tell the comp to boot from y instead of x? ^^

[Deepone]

This is done in BIOS, by selecting booting device. However I'm not sure if all of them allow for that. And there is the trouble of Windows thinking the first HD is booted so installation always needs access to it - haven't tried this with windows xp thought. If you tell it to boot from the drive that before was the first HD, it should boot up normally but the drive letters might be re-arranged :)

[Ratrap]

Ok thanks, i will just open my comp, install the 2 old drives and see what's booting, I bought Prof. and my old drives got Home.